Sunday, October 11, 2009

neobux clicks

Courtesy qoutes from neobux forum reproduced

[quote][b][hl]Introduction[/hl][/b]

I've dedicated a lot of my "free" day time (like just before go to my 2-6 hours of daily sleep) thinking and re-thinking about options for the activity measuring, correlated with TOS 3.7, to become more fair to everyone and bring the best results possible, at least in my theoretical opinion.

I've started writing this post several times, with tons of paper going to recycle because of write / re-write of all the stuff...

This week a topic was brought to my attention... One more topic about not so good averages, that make me try to finish this concept, to be able to post it on the forums having great contribution for hopefully some good "end-work".
Also some weeks ago I'v presented some cousin idea from this one to our Admin, but I think this version is a bit better, and more well thought.


[b][hl]"The Good, The Bad and the Ugly[/hl][/b]

Like we have TOS 3.7 we're sometimes hurting some really good clickers earnings, especially with the rule of one account per computer, and most of the time beneficing those "smart" selfish guys... Lets see...

[b]...the good[/b]
Lets imagine a guy that clicks every single day for weeks and weeks... Really high average, but then (s)he is a really busy person.

So there is one day (s)he got at the office to do some quick maintenance and that maintenance goes on and on for 12 hours.Good by next day's earnings. And this happens from time to time, has even happened to me one day that for some reason I forgot to leave team viewer on at my home computer before exiting (really handful for those bad work days), and bang, 0 clicks that day. I even have viewed all the ads from both days when I got home, but even there as TOS 3.7 is today no next days earnings...

[b]...the bad[/b]
Oh on the other hand the main reason for low averages in my opinion. Great community at the foruns, but either some black sheep here, and most of the "outside users" only thinking about their own "small world".

In other words:
Mr. Smart Guy: I only have an 1.x average so I'll click every single day in only 2 ads since its enough to receive all from my referrals, and most off all I only use 60 seconds for my (most of the times) non-busy day...

[b]...and the ugly[/b]
Looking at this two fellows there is no doubt that the guy from case A, deserve well to be rewarded for his strong activity and the B guy, should have some lesson about community spirit, and "be the change you want to see in world..."

Isn't really that fair to be judge in a 24 hours period, and neither to be as rewarded for minimum activity as to full normal member activity...

[b][hl]Outside working week... 5 out of 7...[/hl][/b]

Well, lets look beyond Neo's great kingdom...
Most of the day jobs run in a 5 days active to 2 days rest basis, correct? In those 5 days you have to be 100% active if you have a smart boss, or are your own boss while caring about your future :P...

So each week we can say you are 71.4% active...
Now since this is internet, and everyone have to have time to attend the forums and so on, lets think about 70% for a start...

70% activity, a bit less than 5 out of 7 days (two really bad days at the office per week).

[b][hl]Frantic, tic, toc every week.[/hl][/b]

So in my opinion the activity evaluation should be done per week, and you shall take the results of all those seeds next week...

So, at the end of each user's week (could be different different for each user like the ads reset time for not overload the server)you % of activity would be calculated..

If you are above 70% activity from total available clicks for your membership at that passed week you would receive 100% from your referrals next week...
If you have less than 70% activity, the next 7 days you will only receive an equal % from total refs clicks, as you last week % activity...

To receive all from his referrals an ultimate would have to view 11 ads per day in average, an golden 7, and a standard 3...

[b][hl]Where those values come from?[/hl][/b]
Well, lets think for example an ultimate.

(s)he would have 15 ads per day available, during 7 days, with totals 105 ads during one week. If we multiply 105 by 0.7 and round up we get 74 ads, witch divided by 7 days and rounded up will get us to 11 ads per day to receive 100% each week...


This would be valid for every membership, and would also count with extra ads that the member could get to the total calc.

If one day an ultimate could get 30 ads, he could be "inactive" for 3 days getting the same 70% activity.

[b][hl]Algorithm-itize-it![/hl][/b]

The main question here is that the 70% referrals credit can be based in several things, and about this point I cannot think alone...

[b]1[/b]we can take the last week daily click referrals average and calculate it while calculating the users activity.

[b]2[/b]we can calculate the % of clicks per day using last day's average, being this way calculated everysingle day.

[u][b]3- My personal favorite[/b][/u] More fund but harder to implement, is to at the end of each day calculate the % do deduct from click of that day and deduct it from users balance. Even if it has been already spent/ cashed out it will be covered by the next day's balance being this way more like a "fee" that in my opinion should be taking the "punishment" for lack of activity.
Another graph showing how much has been deducted would make the lazy girl/boy think twice...

And even greater if that fund from the deductions will be be kept all together to sponsor active member's rewards like those talked in the active membership from our fellow Denfel.

[b][hl]May I "sin" once?[/hl][/b]

I think no one is perfect, and like have been said several times people have some harder working times, and other stuff to do in some specific week, that could make them go to the bad group... And for those without vacation days this could be unfair also...
I was also thinking in some "over the top activity reward points". If a member have been active (fully active as been 90-100% of all available ads) for one entire month, (s)he will get a point that will keep him clear for one "bad" week...

This points would be saved until a max of 12 (being this a full year) and that would be an extra incentive to go from 70% to 90% activity, and they could expire also being converted for some small "renewing discount 1-5%".

[b][hl]Reward/punishment isn't everything... What about good looking?[/hl][/b]

This good looking expression could seem really strange, but everyone of you surelly gives some importance to "how your nickname sounds to others", after all internet interaction is an extension of your everyday life and as in your life you want to be as good as possible, as well having some recognition.

Simple 10 bars each one representing 10% of activity under all fellows at forums, being this % activity calculated only once in a month and rounded up, would make a lot of us enter in like an honor quest to have all the bars full. And I'm talking starting from the 10 years old WoW player that is addicted in everything that can show experience/status, and ending up in the middle age woman/man that just like the pretty colors next to the nickname, and also is proud of being a solid worker...


[b][hl]Is it the end of it?[/hl][/b]

Of course this idea is in no way a final suggestion, if it where I would have send it directly to support.

I really think that together we can really improve the concept beyond all this, and with some admin's input in the mater of implementability"and viability we can get to some really nice "hour consuming" idea :)


I won't apologize for the post is way long, but I would like to congratulate everyone that got to the end of it and is whiling to give some creative thinking on this :)

Best Regards,

Helixpt[/quote]

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